Theatre
for all of these characters they have a sense of humour.
When I ask her what drew her to the job in particular, Crotty
hoots. Its a no-brainer. I mean, Conor is an extraordinary writer.
Its a luxury offer. Its not really about being drawn to it, its more the
kind of thing youd crawl over people for, commit a few kidnaps for!
The others are similarly enthusiastic, with Kearns proclaiming
that its the stuff you dream about. Theyre all excited to be working
on such rich material and they have genuine affection for their
characters, messed up as they may be.
Crotty recalls a friend coming to see the show during one of the
earliest performances in London, when she was still finding her feet
in the role, and asking why her character Elizabeth doesnt just leave
the abject situation shes found herself in.
I thought, Leave and go where? Do what?, says Crotty. I think we
can delude ourselves that there are so many options, even now, that
people can choose their lives and just remake them as they please.
The Brightening Airs female characters are largely out of options
and theyre just trying to find a way to survive, whether that means
reciting train timetables aloud like neurodivergent Billie or becoming
romantically involved with an older local businessman like Freya.
Roddys Lydia is tragically optimistic, even as she remains married
to a man who cares so little for her. I really like her
sense of hope, Roddy says of her character. Shes
always coming in with the solution, shes keeping the
ball in the air but the thing that she wants is the
thing thats going to cage her. Its like her sense of
hope is the thing thats going to deflate her.
We move on to talk about the options available
for female theatre practitioners in Ireland today. Its
been over a decade since the #WakingTheFeminists
campaign was formed in response to the Abbey
Theatres male-dominated 2016 programme (which
featured only one play written by a woman) with
women in Irish theatre demanding and gaining
better representation. Crotty was heavily involved at the time,
speaking at the public meeting held at Abbey Theatre that galvanised
the movement.
Irish theatre has changed in the years since: Roddy points out that
the two biggest theatres in Dublin now have female artistic directors
Róisín McBrinn at the Gate and Caitríona McLaughlin at the Abbey.
Things have changed for the better overall, agrees Crotty but
its a case of some down, plenty more to do. Looking back, shes
struck by how being part of such a large movement a critical mass,
an avalanche as she puts it allowed for a collective boldness. I
dont think that has lasted, she says ruefully. Theatre is a small, very
personal business ...
Each of these women are very aware that theyre in a profession
that offers little security: as an actor, even when youre as talented
and garlanded as these women are, youre waiting to be chosen, as
Crotty puts it. You get chosen every time or not chosen, she says.
Youre on the list or youre not on the list.
Gilmore has founded her own film and TV production company
with her friend and fellow actor Fionnuala Gygax, as a way of having
more control over her own career. An actor can be the cream of the
crop for a time, but then youre out of the building, she says. You
can feel disposable. So I thought producing work could feel more
stable and rewarding.
As Derbhle says, youre chosen or not chosen, and I was not
chosen for a long time, so I chose myself, she reflects. I started
writing vehicles for me but then go, hang on a minute, having a
voice is addictive. Because, as an actor, youre a vessel for a vision. If
you start writing, you realise, Oh, I have things in me that I want to
say. Then more and more ideas come.
The last time Roddy was on the Gate stage was during the spring
covid lockdown in 2021 the stalls were empty and The Visiting
Hour, a care home drama co-starring Stephen Rea, was streamed to
audience members who were watching the live show on their laptops.
It was a project that she spearheaded.
Stephen and myself had worked together a few times, and I rang
him during lockdown, and we talked about how we should do a
two-hander. So we asked Frank McGuinness to write us a play! she
remembers, almost amused by her own audacity. Its funny when
youre backed up against the wall you realise your capacity, because
otherwise you just have to wait for a phone call ...
Kearns creates her own work on social media she has hundreds
of thousands of followers on Instagram and TikTok who are there
for her humorous short form content. Her recent video about the
specific type of plastic bowl that has multiple uses in an Irish home
(popcorn receptacle, vessel to catch leaks, reservoir for childrens
vomit, etc) has been viewed millions of times.
Her social media success provides a welcome source of income
that keeps her afloat when shes not earning from acting work.
However, she thinks the pressure for actors to have
a large social media following its not unheard of
for commercial TV and theatre projects to enquire
about a potential stars social media following before
casting them is bullshit.
I loved the way Paul [Mescal], just as he got really
big, deleted all his public social media because you
shouldnt have to have it, she says.
Social media can feel toxic for actors, Kearns
observes. Theres a lot of comparing, especially
in those times when you havent been chosen, and
youre thinking, Oh my god, theyre doing this and
I didnt get seen for that. It can be really hard. I dont
think actors should have to be on social media, and have a certain
number of followers. Thats just crazy.
Roddy and Crotty stay off social media and Gilmore is on
Instagram but has conflicted feelings about it. Its almost like its like
a fake simulation version of yourself, she says. Its you, if life went
really well all the time.
As we prepare to wrap up the interview, talk turns to the next few
weeks and the upcoming rehearsal period. Roddy and Gilmore are
new in the roles, while most of the rest of the cast, including Chris
ODowd and Brian Gleeson, performed in the show in London. Its
like coming on at half time in a football match, jokes Roddy. But
you know the team are already winning with this production.
Youre coming in with less rehearsal time, and with people who
already know it, says Gilmore. So it feels exposing and thrilling
at the same time. You just have to throw yourself in. She met
McPherson recently and confessed that she was feeling apprehensive
about the task ahead. He said, Thats like me every time I sit down
to write something.
Crotty tells them about a warm-up ritual the London cast carried
out before each performance. They would gather on stage before
the audience had been admitted to the theatre and sing a song one
cast member had chosen before each performance: We would be
on stage singing and dancing, and its a cool thing to be on a stage
when the stalls are empty and ushers are checking for the last bits of
rubbish and practising the fire announcements. Its special.
She hopes to continue the tradition alongside Roddy and Gilmore
in Dublin. The Brightening Air is at the Gate Theatre from July 17.
Its like her
sense of hope
is the thing
thats going to
deflate her.
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